(07-24-2018, 04:10 PM)Vincent Lane Said: Just to clarify, you are saying I am not permitted to do the ideas I mentioned?

As an owner you're welcome to do nearly anything you want that isn't going to hurt the fed, but as a solution to the issues in this thread I don't see those ideas being the answers to making this site more active. If your ideas create more activity elsewhere than here, it means it's counter productive. If you want to give new ideas a try and see if they end up helping the fed (this site) be more active, you're more than welcome. I'm always up for seeing how experiments go. I mean I COULD be wrong and the Twitter/offsite ideas may actually boost things here on our actual site. There is no limit to what you can do/try, but I do have a goal and vision that I'd still be looking for in the long run when it comes to this site's ability to be more fun for everyone on a more constant basis even if they're very busy that week.

(07-24-2018, 04:51 PM)"Dark Warrior" Micheal Graves Said: Now the fed is made up mostly with adults. Adults with jobs and responsibilities that severely limit the amount of free time that they have avalible to devote to a hobby such as this.

Which is why we need what? More ways to be active quickly that are fun and also can be worth doing because they'll help you perform better. If you're on the train and have 5 free minutes during the ride, you should be able to (fill in the blank) real quick on your phone as you know (fill in the blank) will only HELP you that week and overall... and will also give others more to see/react to/etc... All hands wash all backs. We're just missing the soap, water, and sponges at the moment.

Quote:Vince McCarver or not, if you go changing the very foundation that this game is built on, you will run the risk of driving talented guys like Main and Engy away. On top of that, changing the game into something different isn't going to suddenly boost participation.

You have to understand that when you own something you want to improve greatly, the future is a lot more important than whatever is here now. I REALLY don't mean that in an asshole way but it's the truth. Anybody who gets driven away by improvements and/or changes, may have been a part of the reason why everyone and everything was so comfortable in a stagnant state.

Quote:With that said, you spoke of a time where everyone did in fact read everyone else’s work, but I think that may be a case of rose colored glasses because I remember things quite differently.

It's my understanding that I've seen and been through a lot more "time" in efedding than you, so it's quite possible you never saw the XWF or other feds at the peak of their participation and activity where basically everyone knew at least some of what everyone else had going on with their characters... not just their own and their opponent that week.

Quote:Now is there something broken here? I’d be inclined to agree with you that there is. I’ve noticed on this run that we have what is probably the smallest roster that I’ve ever personally been a part of. The opt ins are down, rping is down, match writing is down.

The site screwing up for a few weeks, and that Savage event taking over a month to post probably didn’t help matters either.

That's definitely a big part of the problem, yes. As for the site and Savage main event, the delay on the main event was tied to the fact that I was in charge of it myself and had to shift my attention to the much more important problem of the site having issues I needed to explore and reach out to others for help/ideas when I myself couldn't find the clear solution. I think we can all agree though that the issues in this thread existed before the site/Savage problem.

Quote:As far as how do we fix it? I’m not sure. We could used some new blood in the fed for sure, but again, changing how the game is played before trying to recruit isn’t a good idea imo.

When things are slow is THE time to make changes. That is a much better route than me putting in my tried and true methods of increasing sign ups (which I won't do right now in this state), and then once those people either leave (75%) or stay(25%) now we finally make the changes...? I am 100% capable of bringing people TO the fed. In fact over the years I've heard several people comment about how interesting it is that sign ups increase anytime I come back around, and that's because I have some tricks of the trade only I know that result in those increases when I'm around more. Right now I have the ability to use those past methods, but on steroids basically, so I KNOW once I flip a few switches we will see more sign ups but I have no interest in seeing a high number of people just show up and leave. The fixes come first.

Quote:If we ran two separate brands, Warfare and Savage for example, but with very different rules, that could work, but I think that we always need to keep at least one show that follows the traditional format.

That conflicts a bit with how everyone should be able to have ways of being more active even if they only have a few minutes here and there. Half of the fed not participating means the new methods would be only half as effective.

(07-24-2018, 04:51 PM)The Engineer Said: What are other RP feds doing differently and are their retention rates better?

Serious questions, not trying to snark.

I don't really think I'm qualified to answer that since I usually have always tried to ignore what other feds do, even since the first fed I ran 20 years ago or whatever. My guess, though, is that if an RP based fed has a better retention rate then it's probably due to there being more "to" do right off the bat that keeps them entertained and in turn keeps everyone else more active too, etc... I'm sure there is someone here who has a more accurate answer though, if they want to add to this.

Quote:Edit: Hell with it, I'm gonna go ahead and make a suggestion for a format change that might help with some of these issues too. Shane, remember when we talked about that old fed I was in, Hardkore World, that had everybody for every match RP IN THE SAME THREAD?

To be honest, THIS is more like what I'd be interested in having half of the fed try BUT as an addition to several other ways of increasing ways of being active and giving people something to say "hey I'm going to jump on the site real quick and see if (fill in the blank) and I know it can only help my overall performance by supplementing my RPs/score/etc AND is fun." The only major problem I'd see in the single thread idea is that we'd need a seriously small limit on the RPing in that thread or you know everyone is just going to scroll past anything that doesn't directly relate to them anyway.

All in all though, I was serious about seeing what happens over the next month and taking it from there before I force changes fed wide that people who are comfortable just staying stagnant will hate. Let's see what happens! And any other suggestions/ideas are still welcome in this thread in the meantime.